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jasenj1 wrote:These folks seem like very sincere Christians who believe God used evolution over millions of years as His creative process.
These folks seem like very sincere Christians who believe God created the universe in a literal six days about 6,000 years ago.
I like 1 Tim 1:5-7 and 2 Tim 2:21-26 for subjects such as this.
Both sides assert that God is sovereign and has the power and authority to do what He wanted to do the way He wanted to do it. Great. Let's move on to harder things like loving our enemies, sharing the Gospel, caring for widows, orphans, and those in prison. We have plenty of good things we're supposed to be DOING as Christians without fighting each other over the details of Creation.
- Jasen.
Hmmm...Sounds like a false either/or statement to me. It's entirely possible to believe that God created the world and also life's potential to change over time...ezduzit wrote:Me personally , it takes more faith to believe in evolution than creation. As Christians do we believe the Word of God or the words of men?
Ez
jochanaan wrote:Hmmm...Sounds like a false either/or statement to me. It's entirely possible to believe that God created the world and also life's potential to change over time...ezduzit wrote:Me personally , it takes more faith to believe in evolution than creation. As Christians do we believe the Word of God or the words of men?
Ez
Petros wrote:A. the presence or absence of Neanderthal DNA does not give evidence that H neanderthalensis is / is not extinct. Apart from the fact that H sapiens and neanderthalensis will have MORE shared DNA that whatever the Homo / Pan percentage is, if we find a husky that has elements of dire wolf DNA from some long back cross species mating, the dire wolf is still extinct unless we do a Jurassic Park - which I THINK has been attempted trying to reconstruct the aurochs.
Petros wrote:B. Last I heard [confirmed by a far too quick reality check tonight] most in the business see Cro-Magnon as straight H sapiens allee same like me Obama Kim, just another variety.
Petros wrote:Which says, guys, by this hypothesis if THEY = fallen angels so are we all.
Petros wrote:Operating in this area one needs a strong nose for evidence and a big bump of discernment. Playing around with the nephilim [though I prefer not to] is one thing and making some link to neanderthalensis is by no means unreasonable, but taking Cro-Magnon out of sapiens is a stretch even before the fallen angels.
I was thinking of the kind of changes that have happened to, for instance, dogs, horses and other animals we have bred for certain traits; also of the kind of human changes we have seen even in recorded history. It is undeniable that here in the US, the average human is taller and larger and lives longer on average than his great-grandparents. And dogs have changed so completely as to be almost a different species. So while it's a stretch to imagine one species becoming another, it's not a large stretch at all...ezduzit wrote:jochanaan wrote:Hmmm...Sounds like a false either/or statement to me. It's entirely possible to believe that God created the world and also life's potential to change over time...ezduzit wrote:Me personally , it takes more faith to believe in evolution than creation. As Christians do we believe the Word of God or the words of men?
Ez
"life's potential to change over time" ? what do you mean by this statement ? that man is or can evolve?
Ez
jochanaan wrote:I was thinking of the kind of changes that have happened to, for instance, dogs, horses and other animals we have bred for certain traits; also of the kind of human changes we have seen even in recorded history. It is undeniable that here in the US, the average human is taller and larger and lives longer on average than his great-grandparents. And dogs have changed so completely as to be almost a different species. So while it's a stretch to imagine one species becoming another, it's not a large stretch at all...
jochanaan wrote:Hmmm...Sounds like a false either/or statement to me. It's entirely possible to believe that God created the world and also life's potential to change over time...ezduzit wrote:Me personally , it takes more faith to believe in evolution than creation. As Christians do we believe the Word of God or the words of men?
Ez
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