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Postby natman » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:14 am

Arom,

If it's any consolation, although my wife enjoys being nude as much as reasonable around the house, she also has confessed that she is not comfortable being completely naked ALL the time. Even when we sleep (nude of course), she says she feels "fearful" if she doesn't at least have a sheet to cover herself. However, even then, she will repeatedly kick the even the light sheet off as she has a tendancy to get hot when she is sleeping.

I think it is just a "woman" thing and us guys need to simply accept it and get over it and enjoy our wive's company no matter what they are or aren't wearing.

Too bad about your FIL. Do you know what his attitude toward pornography is? Does he keep such magazines around the house or spend time on the internet looking at such images? They only reinforce the notion that nudity=sex. If he does, if there is a way to show him some of the images on the Naturist-Christians.org site, it might help to break the link in his mind.
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Postby Jim1000 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:02 am

Arom,

Thanks for the maturity you are showing in dealing with your in-laws. This is exactly how I hoped you would handle this situation.

Nathan,

I believe you have hit the nail on the head regarding women and nudity. It seems to be a different experience qualitatively for many of them, and we men may need simply to acknowledge these differences and be OK with them.
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Postby Paul Walker » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:31 am

natman wrote:Arom,


I think it is just a "woman" thing and us guys need to simply accept it and get over it and enjoy our wive's company no matter what they are or aren't wearing.



I don't think so. My wife is a 'militant nudist'. She will fight for her right to shed restrictive cloth from her body! Once, while at Laguna Del Sol, she took her shoes off and exclaimed to me "Ha ha, I am more naked than you!!".
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Postby natman » Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:58 am

Was she always that way or was there a time in your relationship when you had to give her a little prod.

I have heard it said that women are the only creatures that have to be dragged kicking and screaming into naturism and then have to be dragged kicking and screaming home.

My wife also takes joy in beating me to the buff. I turn to take off my shirt and by the time I turn around again, she's already stripped down to her wedding ring, beaming and proclaiming "Na, na, na, Na, na, na!!!"
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Postby jochanaan » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:02 pm

It seems as if women tend to be on the ends of the spectrum: either reluctant or militant. No middle ground for them. :)
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Postby natman » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:54 pm

jochanaan wrote:It seems as if women tend to be on the ends of the spectrum: either reluctant or militant. No middle ground for them. :)


Back to my original statement: "It's a woman thing... get over it!"
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Postby Paul Walker » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:20 pm

natman wrote:Was she always that way or was there a time in your relationship when you had to give her a little prod.



Well, she knew I was a clothes hater before we ever even discussed marriage. She was fully aware that I was NOT going to wear any clothes unless I had to. One day, we were watching the news and a story came on about a resort. One of the shots showed an older couple walking down a walking trail (from behind) while they held hands. It was very touching to me as well. She said "that looks nice". I told her that could be us! She said we should at least take the tour of a resort near us (this is before we moved here). So, we did. And we stayed. Then, we joined (at her suggestion). Then, we were going to move to the resort full time. Then, my work took us out here where we are now. Laguna Del Sol is very close to our home, and we do belong to the club, but I have to admit, Laguna Del Sol allows a lot of lustful activities and behavior that our old resort did not. This has greatly limited our participation at a nude resort. I think if we had stayed where we were, we would have moved to the resort and been really happy there. Unfortunately, I have to go where my employment does, so here we are. It does take some prodding sometimes to get her to go to Laguna for something, but not because of nudity or anything like that, because of the lust and perversion we encounter there. I was told that Laguna used to be a lot more conservative than it is now, but as long as we have been going there, we see it sliding downhill very quickly. My wife has suggested dropping our membership there. Ouch.

When we moved here, I made sure to buy a big enough piece of property that we can enjoy it nude when we wish. It is nice to not have to travel anywhere to 'be nude'. It just becomes a natural state of being when you do it normally without a car drive involved. I work 4 days per week, sometimes 5. Wife 'works' (volunteers) sometimes 3 days a week. We spend a lot of time in the garden or out doing some kind of activity when we are off work, so we don't really miss the nude resort much. We miss the friends more than anything. Some have threatened to come visit, but so far none have. We are planning a trip soon to go visit them. Anyway, the point is, it takes NO prodding from me at all to get my wife to be natural around our home. It sometimes takes some prodding to get her to go to Laguna for an event or something I want to check out, but for the reasons above, nothing else.

Right now, we are planning on a nude cruise. Guess whose idea THAT was? Not me. But it does sound fun. Cheap too!
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Postby natman » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:48 am

Paul Walker wrote:It is nice to not have to travel anywhere to 'be nude'. It just becomes a natural state of being when you do it normally without a car drive involved.


That is basically why we do not join or regularly attend a "resort". Why drive miles and pay a fee to be naked when we can do it whenever we want here at home? We are fortunate enough to have a relatively private yard, surrounded by lush gardens, a couple of patios, lots of area to sunbath, a spa and a swing. Also, so far in our marriage, we have not had the privilege of going on a real vacation away from home primarily because of the fact that we have had three very active teenagers that consume most of our time, energy and monies. We have had something planned for almost every single weekend, and on the rare occasion that there is nothing on the schedule, we simply want to rest. That will probably (hopefully) change in a couple of years as the kids get out of high school and onto college or full-time employment. At that time, we might consider visiting one of the all-inclusive resorts in Mexico or the Caribbean.

At the same time I realize that resorts are essential for those that live in the cities, where such privacy, natural surroundings and like-minded social interaction are hard to come by.

It is too bad that Laguna Del Sol seems to be headed down a slippery slope. We have a resort between here and Austin that WAS very family friendly and I was considering visiting. Then I noticed that they changed their attitude and began presenting themselves as a "swinger's" paradise. Too bad, for them and us. I do hope that the trend reverses.
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Postby Jon-Marc » Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:19 pm

A resort is definitely essential for me. Otherwise, I wouldn't have any place to live. This resort is the only place in Florida I can afford. Florida is EXPENSIVE! The only thing that's cheaper here than in Michigan is propane. I would have had to stay in cold Michigan in a textile neighborhood where I couldn't go outside nude without the fear of being arrested.

Some nudists envy where I live, but I envy the ones who live in a secluded area where they can live in a real house and have the privacy to be nude outdoors on their own property. I miss having a real house. I can't afford a house and have to live in an RV. I don't like it, but it's the only way I can afford to live in a nudist resort or in Florida. I also don't like the rule of "No cameras" and can't take nude photos of myself outdoors. I got a talking to once for doing that and was told not to do it again. I was only taking pictures of me.
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Postby Paul Walker » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:59 pm

That's a stark contrast to Laguna Del Sol these days...

Someone was taking pictures of my wife from the other side of some bushes. My wife saw a quick 'flash' and looked over. She ran over, in fact when she thought she saw a lens. She confronted the man and made a big stink. She detained him and sent me to get the management form the office. The management told me they would not come out to investigate, and told my wife that detaining the camera man was a violation of his rights and she could be sued if she didn't apologize right away! We freaked out! I demanded the camera immediately, and told the managemtn that I would accept all liability for the confiscation (I can afford a better lawyer than him is what I was thinking). They told the man to leave the resort, but let him take his camera! We were stunned, and very dismayed. I thought about chasing him out of the resort onto public property to place him under citizen's arrest, but wife told me to drop it and let God handle him.
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Postby blue eyes » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:18 pm

I can't beleive they let him get away with that. Thats lousy. Did that man have a membership or did he come from elsewere?
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Postby Jon-Marc » Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:32 pm

Was the pervert's rights violated any more than your wife's were? He photographed her without asking permission. I would have told them that when they said his rights were violated, and he could sue. I would have also said that if he sued then I would sue him for violating my wife's rights. That is, if I had a wife. :lol: Personally, I couldn't care less who photographs me. I figure if they're that hard up for someone to photograph, then they're welcome to it. :lol:
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Postby Paul Walker » Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:41 am

The creep was not a member, he was there just for the day. Believe me, this has been a thorn in my side ever since it happened. My wife doesn't want any of our pictures where we are nude ont he web because she is afraid of her image being shared by perverts, then THIS happened.

What I really wanted to do was pulverize the creep, then beat him with his own camera. However, WWJD crossed my mind and I would have settled for a citizen's arrest for voyerism, but wife said let it go. I trust that God will handle him as he deems fit.

Personally, I am with you, Jon. Take all the pictures oyu want of me, I don't care. I couldn't care less. But Teri thinks differently.
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Postby bn2bnude » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:46 am

Paul Walker wrote:... However, WWJD crossed my mind and I would have settled for a citizen's arrest for voyerism, but wife said let it go. I trust that God will handle him as he deems fit.


Just because I am curious? What do you thing Jesus would have done?
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Postby natman » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:44 am

Most resorts have strict rules against such activities. If LDS has such rules and th management failed to enforce them, they are opening themselves up to anarchy and a quick slide down the slippery slope into becoming a sexually charged resort because people will begin to say, "If they won't enforce their own rules, we might as well just do what we want."

Sad. :(
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