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Petros wrote:I'm rather an outsider myself, though with a different path.
And I definitely see your point - points?
Here's the thing:
I have been outsider in many different settings. And in several of them, which I see no reason to enumerate, I have noted a spectrum. There are some, true dyed in the wool activists, who will preach it and teach it and push the boundaries and work the agenda to change and fix it all. There are some, seize the moment funlovers, who will to a degree go along with the activists but just want to enjoy; if others come to join in, great. And there are others, myself one, who will go quietly, inconspicuously, careful who they say what to, hoping not to be spotted and stopped. That is where I am.
The Inyourfacerts always maske the most noise and are the most conspicuous. Not always the most effective.
NudeDude92 wrote:...Some specific problems I have:
1. No clear distinction between "naturists" and Naturists. What I mean, it's clear that this site and a few other eschew sexuality in public, but the majority of other sites I found were clearly not so strict (truenudists for example, see the comments on photos of women in their gallery). In other words, naturism is not a single, definable idea, that embraces and emphasizes non-sexual social nudity.
NudeDude92 wrote:2. Lack of the "it's so obvious my life style is good for me that I don't have to shove it down your throat" mentality. In the recent strip on N-C about a naturist vlogger for example, the woman in the video got into a lake, and immediately went on talking in an advertiser's way "oh it's so much better without clothes!".... at which I killed the video right when she said that, and her husband seemed to reluctantly and stiltedly echo. Again, if it's so good, it should be able to go without saying over and over.
NudeDude92 wrote:3. Lack of involvement of younger adults. While I've been investigating this for myself, the usual stereotypes popped up. Old dudes, some of them creepy. The "they're so old they don't care what they show" one. How can we attract more people my age? I might add that very few people at HH the time we went were anywhere as young as we were.
NudeDude92 wrote:4. Lack of legal protection. Enough said. It's just funny how a certain sexual perversion has been enshrined in "law" before a life style that is not actually harmful.
NudeDude92 wrote:... sometimes Naturism feels to me like it's being advertised like the snake-oils of times past (think the health elixirs of the olden days). Kinda like the holistic healing of today. There's too much confusing info, and the actually legit sources of good info get too little resources to look legit....
NudeDude92 wrote:Some specific problems I have:
1. No clear distinction between "naturists" and Naturists. What I mean, it's clear that this site and a few other eschew sexuality in public, but the majority of other sites I found were clearly not so strict (truenudists for example, see the comments on photos of women in their gallery). In other words, naturism is not a single, definable idea, that embraces and emphasizes non-sexual social nudity.
NudeDude92 wrote:2. Lack of the "it's so obvious my life style is good for me that I don't have to shove it down your throat" mentality. In the recent strip on N-C about a naturist vlogger for example, the woman in the video got into a lake, and immediately went on talking in an advertiser's way "oh it's so much better without clothes!".... at which I killed the video right when she said that, and her husband seemed to reluctantly and stiltedly echo. Again, if it's so good, it should be able to go without saying over and over.
NudeDude92 wrote:3. Lack of involvement of younger adults. While I've been investigating this for myself, the usual stereotypes popped up. Old dudes, some of them creepy. The "they're so old they don't care what they show" one. How can we attract more people my age? I might add that very few people at HH the time we went were anywhere as young as we were.
NudeDude92 wrote:4. Lack of legal protection. Enough said. It's just funny how a certain sexual perversion has been enshrined in "law" before a life style that is not actually harmful.
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