NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

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NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby NUDEBEME » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:49 am

Nudists’ Bill of Rights

1. Nudists have the right to hold their values and beliefs.

2. Nudists have the right to petition and be heard by their governments.

3. Nudists have the right to responsibly enjoy nudity within their homes and on private property.

4. Nudists have the right to exercise decision-making in the upbringing

of their families in a manner consistent with their beliefs and without

interference from others.

5. Nudists have the right to assemble in the nude within appropriate

settings.

6. Nudists have the right to decisions about what constitutes acceptable

nudity to be made free from considerations of age, gender, marital status, religious beliefs, ethnic origin, or sexual orientation.

7. Nudists have the right to responsibly enjoy being nude within appropriate locations on public lands.

8. Nudists have the right to be free from adverse actions by their employers as a result of their lawful enjoyment of nudity when away from work.

9. Nudists have the right to experience accurate, life-affirming portrayals of the human body in all its stages as depicted in the performing arts, the fine arts, literature, and human history.

10. Nudists have the right to be treated as law-abiding citizens.

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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby jochanaan » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:08 am

A good list. And many of us would like to see the list of "appropriate locations" expanded to include, well, everywhere. :)
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby JimShedd112 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:45 pm

I signed the Nudist Bill of Rights when it first came out at AANR.com. Perhaps it did not/will not accomplish anything but if we don't stand up for our rights who will?

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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby nytro » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:30 pm

jochanaan wrote:And many of us would like to see the list of "appropriate locations" expanded to include, well, everywhere. :)


LOL, way to limit it Jochanaan! Although you can throw me into the list of "many of us"!
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Jon-Marc » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:08 pm

Unfortunately, our "rights" end wherever prudes are found.
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Petros » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:23 am

we are endowed with certain rights - the EXERCISE of most if not all of which [the pursuit of happiness I think has to be an exception] is more or less strictly limited by our neighbours.
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby JimShedd112 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:36 am

Our rights end when they begin to infringe upon the rights of another, as I had to explain to a patron.guest recently when he insisted upon blowing vapor (yep, he was vaping) into the fave of a dealer and others while playing cards, despite being repeatedly asked/instructed not to to do so. But, why does our right to bare all have to end when another claims to be offended? There is no actual harm done to anyone, in my opinion, simply because they see another person nude.

If there were physical contact causing harm I'd say one's nudity could cause offense but the near sight of nakedness is not harmful in any sense, in my opinion.

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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Petros » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:27 am

We need though to recognize that sight can be an invasion.

I am not so much offended as upset when [as all too often] a film flashes a closeup of an eye. Some I understand are perturbed by the sight of blood, or a shot of an appendectomy in progress, etc. Herself's reaction to nudity is not a matter of morals.

Sound too, the screeching chalk, the blatting mishandled trumpet.

Fine lines need to be drawn. Is A offended / upset by the sight of my nudity, my obscenely bloated body, or the matter of my tattoos?
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Jon-Marc » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:22 am

I remember when children could be nude outdoors and no one cared. Now some one is more apt to call the police and complain. That happened at a local lake beach in my home city. A little girl who looked to be about 5 was trying to change her clothes under a towel on the beach. A woman called the police who were very upset when they came and saw it was just a child, and they chewed the woman out for wasting their time.

It's beyond my comprehension why anyone would be offended at the sight of a child changing her clothes, playing nude or skinny dipping. Some people see porn and sex in the simplest and most innocent of things.

A lot of adults also believe that seeing nude adults is somehow harmful to children. They believe the nudity will somehow damage and traumatize children when children don't even care until they're taught to care. Body shame is not natural--it's taught. When I told one of my nieces about the nudity resort I went to before moving in there and mentioned that it was a family resort, she was shocked and said, "CHILDREN see that?!" I wasn't sure what she meant by "that" other than simple, non-sexual nudity, although a lot of people don't seem to believe there is any such thing as non-sexual nudity.
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby JimShedd112 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:42 am

Jon-Marc, in reference to what you're saying about children I was reading the article titled "College Students Speak Up About WNBR," pages 31-37 in my latest edition of N Magazine (The Naturist Society) yesterday when my three year old non-nudist (mom and grandma just won't let her run naked and free) granddaughter saw a photo of riders and bicycles when she said "look bicycles, I love bicycles,: never mentioning the nude figures astride or alongside the bicycles. Children, obviously, just don't see things through the same prism of good/bad adults do until they've been taught to do so.

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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby jochanaan » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:41 pm

All this begs a question: Is it reasonable for anyone to be offended at the sight of simple nudity? It's a given that some are, and that we should respect them as people; but do we have to give in to every unreasonable demand they demand of us? :?:
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Petros » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:06 am

Well - we would not - if everyone were equal and respected others' rights and needs and issues.

But that is true of mighty few human assocations.

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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Bare_Truth » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:32 am

The degree of atypical behavior of someone tends to be proportional to the degree of concern that people have. Now some people may respond on a basis of offering help while others will respond with fear. Consider if it was a moderately warm night and you were driving down a rural road and you saw some woman nude walking down the side of the road. and compare that to if you saw a man walking nude in the same situation. Your assessment of risk may depend on many factors. The man on a hot summer day with the parka may have been insane, or he might be ill with a high fever and suffering chills and disorientation.

It is the oddity or unfamiliarity of the situation that causes the observer distress. The same can be a factor with disabled people as well. As soon as you understand the disability your stress level will reduce. Because you have a framework to fit any social interaction into. Where nudity is normal and expected and predictable there is likely no problem, but where nudity is not the norm and is not expected it causes alarm. Steven Gough's problem is nudism is legal but "causing affront or alarm" is not as it is considered disturbing the peace. The non-sequitur is nobody has noticed the enforcement efforts against him certainly cause him affront or alarm even though he is hurting or threating no one, and often the only person claiming affront or alarm is the arresting officer. Or at least that is the best I have been able to dope out from the reports. As for his antisocial behavior order (ASBO) Can you get anymore antisocial than how he has been treated?
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Jon-Marc » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:56 am

jochanaan wrote:All this begs a question: Is it reasonable for anyone to be offended at the sight of simple nudity? It's a given that some are, and that we should respect them as people; but do we have to give in to every unreasonable demand they demand of us? :?:


Unfortunately, laws are made to "protect" the innocent and unwilling from seeing nude people--especially children who generally don't care until they're taught to care. The lawmakers don't care about us or our feelings or desires, or the fact that simple nudity is NOT harmful to anyone--just because it embarrasses or offends them. When did people gain the right not to be embarrassed or offended?
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Re: NUDIST HAVE RIGHTS TOO

Postby Petros » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:01 am

People did not.

I know I do not have the right not to be offended, and embarrassed? Forget it.

Certain individuals and classes have societal privileges - distinguish God-given rights - which in daily life override rights and truths and duties. The rest bow or pay the price.

Books of my mother's era made much of cases where the church humbled kings and had them making public amends.

Today a Twitter campaign in a few hours can have the pope humbly apologizing for his unacceptable behavior.
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