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AmericanQuaker wrote:JimShedd112 wrote:It does seem Bill Martin is sensitive to any real discussion of which he disapproves. I too was previously banned (perhaps suspended is more appropriate) without notice or warning when Bill took offense to comments I made about the pope and the Catholic Church.
I personally say live and let live and accept the fact Quakers accept and recognize homosexuality and same-sex marriage but recognize others are fastidiously set against it as an "abomination to God." It is, as many here will argue, not our position to pass judgment/condemn those we don't agree with, it's God's role.
Jim
The Terms of Service prohibit demeaning of another's religion. Postings are to be positive and must show respect for other denominations.
Bill Martin, Founder, Naturist-Christians.org
O you who love the LORD, hate evil! He preserves the lives of his saints; he delivers them from the hand of the wicked. -- Psalm 97:10
But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it readily enough. -- 2 Corinthians 11:3-4
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! -- Isaiah 5:20
If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. -- Deuteronomy 13:1-5
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error. -- 1 John 4:1-6
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. -- Galatians 1:6-10
And what I am doing I will continue to do, in order to undermine the claim of those who would like to claim that in their boasted mission they work on the same terms as we do. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. -- 2 Corinthians 11:12-15
Point well taken!New_Adventurer wrote:I have been following this strip for almost two months and am still at a loss exactly what NC is. Is it Nudist Clubhouse, Nudist Convocation, or Nudist something else.
AmericanQuaker wrote:naturaldon wrote:I said my peace at NC and left it there, stating that I would let others have the last word(s), so I will not here break my word. However, I had no idea how much is being deleted and locked, especially entire strips where in debate I proved the inaccuracies of unsourced stats and statements that mocked or smeared Biblically-based, conservative (NOT right-wing fundamental) Christianity. Convenient. But the guy with his finger on the detonator usually does the most damage.
I'm surprised I, myself, am not kicked out... yet. But at the rate of deletions, I may soon be demoted from weekend nudist to nudist-wannabe.
For your information, Miriam deleted more than 1000 posts without consulting anyone else. I only deleted a few posts after first notifying the poster that the post was in violation of the Terms of Service. Some posts not related to Naturism were moved to the Non Naturist Forums.
Bill Martin, Founder
Naturist-Christians.org
Miriam wrote:Yes, what I do is never a secret to anyone...you know me! I did explain it on the site before I left...but obviously it was deleted quickly by 'funtobenude'. The decision to leave was certainly mine because what was going on behind-the-scenes was something as a Christian Woman I could not live with. I also loved everyone there and I will not under any circumstances stand idly by to watch my friends being treated that way. There was lurking in private e-mails, probing and censorship in the Women's Private Forum...threats of eviction to long time members and even censorship of people's statements. And yes, I did personally delete everything I had written except for one prayer in the Women's private forum for someone who had committed suicide because I feared that both the moderator 'funtobenude' and Bill Martin would re-write everything I contributed to follow their mindset. I could not permit that. Feel free to tell that to anyone who wants to know. I hold no secrets as you well know.
Bill wrote:
I, for one, receive the Cooperative Baptist newsletter about 3-4 times a week.
Petros wrote:#2 and #3 are mighty peculiar - I have no data
Maverick wrote:So, here is what Miriam asserts:
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2) There was "lurking" in private emails (not exactly sure what this one means).
3) There was probing and censorship in the women's private forum.
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AmericanQuaker wrote:The Naturist-Christians.org site has merely moved discussions not directly related to Naturism to the non-naturist discussions.
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